Tuesday, Sept. 2, 2014

State of the state in men's and women's basketball (12 items)

By Brandon Gurney
Deseret News

Jan. 21, 2014

The BYU men's team continues to lead the state in terms of the computer rankings, still at an respectable No. 40 in the CBSsportsline.com's RPI. Utah State and Utah (93 and 133) are next best.

The UVU Wolverines at No. 151 might have the best shot at the NCAA Tournament because they have an early lead in the WAC with a 4-0 record.

On the women's side, the Cougars host two conference opponents while Utah, USU and SUU hover around .500.

1 of 12. BYU men

13-7 (5-2 WCC)

Thursday, 8 p.m. (ROOT SPORTS)

Saturday, 8 p.m. (ESPN2)

BYU has won five straight, and two straight on the road, as it heads out on the road again this week. The Zags are always tough at home and are 6-1 in West Coast Conference play.

2 of 12. Utah men

14-3 (3-3 Pac-12)

Thursday, 7 p.m. (Pac-12 network)

Sunday, 6 p.m. (Fox Sports 1)

The Utes head out on the road after securing two conference wins at home over UCLA and USC. Arizona is the No. 1-ranked team in the country and will likely pose the toughest test the Utes have encountered this season.

3 of 12. Utah State men

12-5 (2-3 MW)

Wednesday, 9 p.m. (CBS Sports Network)

Saturday, 9 p.m. (ESPNU)

The Aggies will take on a struggling UNLV team before heading home for a big game against red hot San Diego State. The Aztecs are 16-1 on the year and 5-0 in Mountain West Conference play.

4 of 12. Weber State men

7-6 (4-1 Big Sky)

Thursday, 7 p.m.

Saturday, 7 p.m.

The Wildcats will again enjoy a homestand at the Dee Events Center, where they're 6-1 on the season.

5 of 12. Southern Utah men

1-14 (0-6 Big Sky)

Thursday, 7 p.m.

Saturday, 8 p.m.

The Thunderbirds will look to reverse their fortunes with two tough road tests this week.
1. Big 12 Call Yet?
Ogden, UT,
Jan. 21, 2014

Sagarin rankings, which byu fans usually prefer, show Utah and byu relatively close, with byu at 42 and Utah at 42

For those in love with RPI, here is something to consider. A month into the season byu had a better rpi than Duke, Louisville, Kentucky and Michigan State. All 4 of those teams were ranked and byu was not, even with a higher RPI.

Perhaps the experts just forgot about byu.


RPI doesn't mean much until the end of the season. A byu fan bragging about RPI since day 1 as they have is like a WAC football team bragging about how amazing their schedule is when they play an SEC team week 1 and mocking the SEC team for playing a couple WAC nobodies the first couple weeks of the season.

The WCC is rated currently the 10th "best" league in the country by ESPN

The Pac 12 is rated 3rd.

So for WAC teams, lets not get too prideful in bragging about playing a good out of conference schedule. Conference schedules means MORE than out of conference. And there is a big difference between the 3rd best conference in the country and the 10th.

2. Christopher B
Ogden, UT,
Jan. 21, 2014

From ESPN on why they have a BPI basketball power index as opposed to other systems:

"Other power rankings already exist, the most prominent being the RPI, Sagarin Ratings, Massey Ratings and Ken Pomeroy's ("Kenpom") ratings. All of these methods are based upon the outcomes of games, their location -- home/road/neutral -- and the quality of opponents. Each one basically puts these together in slightly different ways and arrives at slightly different results.

RPI, due to its simplicity, tends to be the biggest decision aid for the NCAA tournament committee, even though it doesn't account for the actual scores of games. Kenpom and our BPI system both account for the varying pace that teams can play, which is an important analytical component of evaluating basketball teams. But we believe the BPI is a little more refined than any other existing power ranking"

The team with the highest BPI in the state of Utah?

The Pac 12 University of Utah utes

3. Big 12 Call Yet?
Ogden, UT,
Jan. 21, 2014

correction to Sagarain,

I mistyped. It has byu 42 and Utah 62 currently. The gap has been closing rapidly as Utah plays a very hard conference schedule and byu plays in the 10 "best" conference in the nation with mostly weak cupcakes. The Pac 12 is the 3rd best in the nation, per ESPN.

4. MacNasty
Rexburg, ID,
Jan. 21, 2014

Big 12 Call Yet?

After the road games in Arizona, one will be able to to sweep what is left of the Ute basketball team into a paper bag.

5. truth in all its forms
henderson, NV,
Jan. 21, 2014

Go UVU I cant wait for them to go dancing!